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Old 09-28-2009, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stomper
of course. what was the fuel filter like when you changed it? you did change it, right?

also, ethanol will GEL as it ages. keeping ethanol fuel in the tank for longer than a month is turning out to be a bad idea.


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The fuel filter is the only part I did not change, I found that when the motor is cold it runs good, but as soon as it warms up it starts to run ruff, I have spark at all 8 plugs and voltage at all 8 injectors, what I don't have is fuel in all 8 cylinders. my last caddy only had 3 carbs, and at this point I am in over my head, I do thank you for your help, if you looked at the picture of her you know why I am putting so much time into this. Is anyone here from Contra costa county or SF bay?
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kad1012

The fuel filter is the only part I did not change, I found that when the motor is cold it runs good, but as soon as it warms up it starts to run ruff, I have spark at all 8 plugs and voltage at all 8 injectors, what I don't have is fuel in all 8 cylinders. my last caddy only had 3 carbs, and at this point I am in over my head, I do thank you for your help, if you looked at the picture of her you know why I am putting so much time into this. Is anyone here from Contra costa county or SF bay?
running ok when cold of course, its running on a rich mixture.

you got fuel pressure but NO fuel at every injector .. have you determined which injectors have no fuel? certainly change those. unless I'm lacking some info, I think your probably set after that.

i would change that fuel filter ...

E&G designer series are "custom", often cabriolet tops, simulated convertible tops, grills, continental kits, sidemounts, etc. .. what was customized on your car? I see only two partial pictures and that tells me very little.






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Old 09-28-2009, 09:02 PM
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At this point I believe you do need someone who knows late model FI to help you. You can always post their findings for advice. Injectors are feed by a common fuel rail. Injectors are power by 2 fuses; each applies 12v to 4 injectors. ECM grounds each injector to turn it on and off. It's is unusual to have driveabilty concerns with no codes. A FSM would be very helpful in understanding and diagnosing whats going on. Caddys with 3 2bbls...tell me more... for real.
 
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by slowroll
At this point I believe you do need someone who knows late model FI to help you. You can always post their findings for advice. Injectors are feed by a common fuel rail. Injectors are power by 2 fuses; each applies 12v to 4 injectors. ECM grounds each injector to turn it on and off. It's is unusual to have driveabilty concerns with no codes. A FSM would be very helpful in understanding and diagnosing whats going on. Caddys with 3 2bbls...tell me more... for real.
In the mid late 1950's in to 60's you could hi pro caddy's, in 57 you could get 2 4's, mine was a 60 deville the speedo went to 130 and it had C/C and air bags for rear suspension. When I was 19 I worked a caddy dealer in Belingham Wa, the owner, a man named Dewey Griffin had many old cars, I got to drive a 1947 caddy convertibl, it was a 3 on the tree, and yes it had the stock flat head, I fell in lust with his 57 Eldo, a 4 door with a stainless steel roof, new it was $13,500. you could buy a house for that in 1957, anyway it also had 3 to carbs on it. I'm 52 and have been around cars all my life.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:41 PM
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Pretty cool, the 57 Barritz is a sharp car, if you could get it now it ; it would still cost as much as a house...LOL...somethings never change.
 
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here are more pic's of her, more next post.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:17 PM
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so that' all of them, Oh by the way the A/C was a bad relay, R12 gets real cold.
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