Front End bang or clunk sound
#1
Front End bang or clunk sound
Looks like I'll be going back to the dealer with my 2007 STS. Whenever I go up a driveway approach or go down a driveway approach, something is making a banging or a clunking type sound. Driversside only. It also does it at slower speeds when going over an axpansion joint that as opened up a bit. Steering Shaft has already been replaced along with the steering gear. Any ideas as to whattheyshould look at? Sometimes it feels like it comes thru the floor board. When they replaced my hood latch they re-checked the shaft and gear and said it was ok but didn't look at anything else.
Eddiek
Eddiek
#3
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
Katzmans Caddy
Thanks for your quick reply. Like in between the floor board and firewall? Just went for a ride again and it sure is a noisey car. If I go real slow when I pull into the garage, I can feel like a wiggle sensation in the front wheel. The garage floor is about a 1/3 of an inch higher than the driveway. And no the cement is not moving. It's the car making that loose feeling.
Eddiek
Thanks for your quick reply. Like in between the floor board and firewall? Just went for a ride again and it sure is a noisey car. If I go real slow when I pull into the garage, I can feel like a wiggle sensation in the front wheel. The garage floor is about a 1/3 of an inch higher than the driveway. And no the cement is not moving. It's the car making that loose feeling.
Eddiek
#4
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
Very hard to figure this out over the internet but that has to be unsettling to have that loose feeling front wheel. I think you should get the car back ASAP. How many miles are on this car and when did you start noticing the problem?
If you have a floor jack you could lift that side of the car, axle stand under as well, then with the wheel raised push and pull the wheel and see if you can see any play in the assembly, try to replicate the problem and see what is going on there. You shouldn't have to do that on a new car though, just get it back to the dealer and I suggest that you get them to road test it with you in the car so the problem can be confirmed in your presence.
If you have a floor jack you could lift that side of the car, axle stand under as well, then with the wheel raised push and pull the wheel and see if you can see any play in the assembly, try to replicate the problem and see what is going on there. You shouldn't have to do that on a new car though, just get it back to the dealer and I suggest that you get them to road test it with you in the car so the problem can be confirmed in your presence.
#5
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
Katzmans Caddy
I already jacked it up and the wheel has no movement at all.Everything else seems tight underneath. The tech will probably go for a ride with me.The problem has been there since day one. I have 1600 miles on the car. Bought it in July. The shaft rattled really bad until it was replaced. Then when they replaced the steering gear we thought it would eliminate this current problem. The bad gear was causing a banging noise when I turned the wheel all the way to the left. That fixed that problem. There are TSB's for the shaft and the steering gear. I'll keep you informed.
My guess is the strut or bad bushing somewhere.
Eddiek
I already jacked it up and the wheel has no movement at all.Everything else seems tight underneath. The tech will probably go for a ride with me.The problem has been there since day one. I have 1600 miles on the car. Bought it in July. The shaft rattled really bad until it was replaced. Then when they replaced the steering gear we thought it would eliminate this current problem. The bad gear was causing a banging noise when I turned the wheel all the way to the left. That fixed that problem. There are TSB's for the shaft and the steering gear. I'll keep you informed.
My guess is the strut or bad bushing somewhere.
Eddiek
#6
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
Katzmans Caddy
Just got back from the dealer. Service manager went with me for a test drive. He thought that it was the strut. New strut installed but it didn't reslove the problem. It still clunks when making a left turn into a driveway aproach or going down an approach and on certain road imperfections. They have now ordered a new upper control arm. They are not sure if that will fix the problem either.Do youor anybody else have any ideas? I'm a little surprised that it has them stumped.
Eddiek
Just got back from the dealer. Service manager went with me for a test drive. He thought that it was the strut. New strut installed but it didn't reslove the problem. It still clunks when making a left turn into a driveway aproach or going down an approach and on certain road imperfections. They have now ordered a new upper control arm. They are not sure if that will fix the problem either.Do youor anybody else have any ideas? I'm a little surprised that it has them stumped.
Eddiek
#7
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
As my kids say, That sucks. Keep at them, now you have a problem verified by the SM so he knows it is there. GM is paying so he will work at it for you. Have they called GM tech for any assistance?
This is an old story but on my Dad's 61 Pontiac, it was a batwing post coupe, we had a rattle, clunk whatever you want to call it from the passenger side in just about the location you describe. Several returns under warranty and nothing found. Finally one Saturday morning Dad was determined to find it for himself so he started tearing out the interior panels.Mom was going nuts because it was a brand new car. Anyway, in the vent on the passenger side he found a nice plated pair of pliers left there we imagine by a line worker. Still have them in my own tool box, best pliers I ever owned!
This is an old story but on my Dad's 61 Pontiac, it was a batwing post coupe, we had a rattle, clunk whatever you want to call it from the passenger side in just about the location you describe. Several returns under warranty and nothing found. Finally one Saturday morning Dad was determined to find it for himself so he started tearing out the interior panels.Mom was going nuts because it was a brand new car. Anyway, in the vent on the passenger side he found a nice plated pair of pliers left there we imagine by a line worker. Still have them in my own tool box, best pliers I ever owned!
#8
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
Katzman Caddy
Love the the pliers story! That was funny. Anyway it is something in the suspension. We can tell just by the way the car feels and the noise. They had me in the service bay to show them what I thought it was. That's when I showed the SM the loose movement in the upper control arm. You put your index finger in in between the area where they bolt goes thru the bushing and you can feel the control arm moving back and forth. We checked another STS on a rack an couldn't feel the movement mine is making. Hopefully that is the problem. Kinda weird that that was my first idea and they didn't thinks so but now they thinks so. I'm no suspension expert. That's their job. I'll let you know. They do treat me good when I pull in to the service area . I get immediate attention. Maybe it's because I called the SM a year ago and complimented them on a good repair job on my 01 Deville.
Eddiek
Love the the pliers story! That was funny. Anyway it is something in the suspension. We can tell just by the way the car feels and the noise. They had me in the service bay to show them what I thought it was. That's when I showed the SM the loose movement in the upper control arm. You put your index finger in in between the area where they bolt goes thru the bushing and you can feel the control arm moving back and forth. We checked another STS on a rack an couldn't feel the movement mine is making. Hopefully that is the problem. Kinda weird that that was my first idea and they didn't thinks so but now they thinks so. I'm no suspension expert. That's their job. I'll let you know. They do treat me good when I pull in to the service area . I get immediate attention. Maybe it's because I called the SM a year ago and complimented them on a good repair job on my 01 Deville.
Eddiek
#9
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
ORIGINAL: Eddiek
Katzman Caddy
Love the the pliers story! That was funny. Anyway it is something in the suspension. We can tell just by the way the car feels and the noise. They had me in the service bay to show them what I thought it was. That's when I showed the SM the loose movement in the upper control arm. You put your index finger in in between the area where they bolt goes thru the bushing and you can feel the control arm moving back and forth. We checked another STS on a rack an couldn't feel the movement mine is making. Hopefully that is the problem. Kinda weird that that was my first idea and they didn't thinks so but now they thinks so. I'm no suspension expert. That's their job. I'll let you know. They do treat me good when I pull in to the service area . I get immediate attention. Maybe it's because I called the SM a year ago and complimented them on a good repair job on my 01 Deville.
Eddiek
Katzman Caddy
Love the the pliers story! That was funny. Anyway it is something in the suspension. We can tell just by the way the car feels and the noise. They had me in the service bay to show them what I thought it was. That's when I showed the SM the loose movement in the upper control arm. You put your index finger in in between the area where they bolt goes thru the bushing and you can feel the control arm moving back and forth. We checked another STS on a rack an couldn't feel the movement mine is making. Hopefully that is the problem. Kinda weird that that was my first idea and they didn't thinks so but now they thinks so. I'm no suspension expert. That's their job. I'll let you know. They do treat me good when I pull in to the service area . I get immediate attention. Maybe it's because I called the SM a year ago and complimented them on a good repair job on my 01 Deville.
Eddiek
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#10
RE: Front End bang or clunk sound
ORIGINAL: Eddiek
You put your index finger in in between the area where they bolt goes thru the bushing and you can feel the control arm moving back and forth. We checked another STS on a rack an couldn't feel the movement mine is making.
You put your index finger in in between the area where they bolt goes thru the bushing and you can feel the control arm moving back and forth. We checked another STS on a rack an couldn't feel the movement mine is making.