PROTECTION OF VALUABLES
What a lousy shot. He is standing within 10 ft and only drops one? I say he needs to go back and practice some more so the next time he can drop them all, 6ft under. In my eyes, guys like this ARE REAL HEROS. Fear not the barrel aimed at them and protect thy neighboor.
As to Rosa Jones, SHAME on her for defending a criminal. Shame on her! I can see her sorrow over the idea that their grandson is a loser and a criminal, GIVE ME A BREAK, defending him? A society in decline we are.
Florida, IMO, what a great place to live.
by South Florida Sun-Sentinel
June 29 2007
Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men — killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.
John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when, Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to Lovell. They wanted his money, police said. But like his attackers, Lovell was armed. The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of Fort Lauderdale.
Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held accountable for the capital offense.
"He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means severe bodily injury or death."
Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere to prevent death or serious injury.
Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his home.
His attorney, Wesley White, of Yulee, near Jacksonville, said he has known Lovell for 19 years and described him as a "quiet Clint Eastwood-type you don't want to mess with." He is a former Marine who was a member of the helicopter detail that transported Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, White said.
According to a police statement:Arrindell ordered Lovell to hand over his wallet. He intentionally dropped it on the floor and refused to pick it up, saying he was afraid. That's when Arrindell ordered him into the women's restroom. "The victim believed he would be executed and when he noticed [Arrindell] distracted ... reached behind his back, removed his loaded .45 caliber handgun from his holster and fired seven rounds," the statement said.
Arrindell was struck twice — once in the head and once in the stomach — and collapsed. Officers found him face down, wearing sunglasses and a bandanna, with a gun near his left hand. Gadson was hit in the chest and ran from the store. Police dogs found him in the hedges of a nearby office building and bank.
Both men were taken to Broward General Medical Center, where Arrindell died and Gadson was in critical condition Thursday.
Sebastian Shakespeare, 23, of Lauderhill, was going to buy a sandwich at the Subway at 1949 N. Pine Island Road when he saw Lovell, gun in hand, standing over Arrindell. A former employee, Shakespeare worked the night shift and often worried about getting robbed.
He said Lovell did a good deed. "A civilian was a hero."
Lovell's neighbor agreed. "If I was in the same situation ... I hope I could've done the same thing," said Bryan Sklar, 45.
But Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones, said: "He ain't no hero. He is a murderer and God will serve justice." She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church, sat on their front porch in Fort Lauderdale on Thursday wondering how a man could shoot two people and not go to jail. They said their grandson sometimes hung with the wrong crowd but never got into legal trouble. According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, he has no arrest record. They said Gadson, who never finished high school, got tired of low-wage jobs and was pursuing his GED.
Arrindell, friends said, found himself in a similar situation: no high school diploma and working odd jobs. So he went back to school. He was a man with past troubles, including a 2004 arrest for carrying a concealed weapon, but he was improving his life, they said. He recently bought a car and had a girlfriend.
June 29 2007
Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men — killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.
John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when, Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to Lovell. They wanted his money, police said. But like his attackers, Lovell was armed. The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of Fort Lauderdale.
Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held accountable for the capital offense.
"He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means severe bodily injury or death."
Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere to prevent death or serious injury.
Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his home.
His attorney, Wesley White, of Yulee, near Jacksonville, said he has known Lovell for 19 years and described him as a "quiet Clint Eastwood-type you don't want to mess with." He is a former Marine who was a member of the helicopter detail that transported Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, White said.
According to a police statement:Arrindell ordered Lovell to hand over his wallet. He intentionally dropped it on the floor and refused to pick it up, saying he was afraid. That's when Arrindell ordered him into the women's restroom. "The victim believed he would be executed and when he noticed [Arrindell] distracted ... reached behind his back, removed his loaded .45 caliber handgun from his holster and fired seven rounds," the statement said.
Arrindell was struck twice — once in the head and once in the stomach — and collapsed. Officers found him face down, wearing sunglasses and a bandanna, with a gun near his left hand. Gadson was hit in the chest and ran from the store. Police dogs found him in the hedges of a nearby office building and bank.
Both men were taken to Broward General Medical Center, where Arrindell died and Gadson was in critical condition Thursday.
Sebastian Shakespeare, 23, of Lauderhill, was going to buy a sandwich at the Subway at 1949 N. Pine Island Road when he saw Lovell, gun in hand, standing over Arrindell. A former employee, Shakespeare worked the night shift and often worried about getting robbed.
He said Lovell did a good deed. "A civilian was a hero."
Lovell's neighbor agreed. "If I was in the same situation ... I hope I could've done the same thing," said Bryan Sklar, 45.
But Gadson's grandmother, Rosa Jones, said: "He ain't no hero. He is a murderer and God will serve justice." She and her husband, Ivory Jones, pastor of a Fort Lauderdale church, sat on their front porch in Fort Lauderdale on Thursday wondering how a man could shoot two people and not go to jail. They said their grandson sometimes hung with the wrong crowd but never got into legal trouble. According to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, he has no arrest record. They said Gadson, who never finished high school, got tired of low-wage jobs and was pursuing his GED.
Arrindell, friends said, found himself in a similar situation: no high school diploma and working odd jobs. So he went back to school. He was a man with past troubles, including a 2004 arrest for carrying a concealed weapon, but he was improving his life, they said. He recently bought a car and had a girlfriend.
This happened not to far from my own business. Lot's of people talkin 'bout this guy right now. Florida has good cwp laws.
Lousy shot? Remember he nailed one and the other guy is critical condition. And also remember the guy is 71. Quite a feat he pulled off.
Lousy shot? Remember he nailed one and the other guy is critical condition. And also remember the guy is 71. Quite a feat he pulled off.
well, i'm very far from 71 but i would hope that in a restroom, i can fataly drop at least 3 guys with 7 rounds.
IF i cant, i better get myself some "keep-cool" training. AIM is not a problem.
my guess he was trembling and misssed about 1/2 of the shots.
THAT is what i meant, he needs more training - to keep his cool !
if i knew his mailing address, i would send him a THANK YOU card,
from one VET to another!.
ORIGINAL: G.A.R.Y.
This happened not to far from my own business. Lot's of people talkin 'bout this guy right now. Florida has good cwp laws.
Lousy shot? Remember he nailed one and the other guy is critical condition. And also remember the guy is 71. Quite a feat he pulled off.
This happened not to far from my own business. Lot's of people talkin 'bout this guy right now. Florida has good cwp laws.
Lousy shot? Remember he nailed one and the other guy is critical condition. And also remember the guy is 71. Quite a feat he pulled off.
by Orlando sentinal
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As reported earlier, some dirtbag who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop in Florida ended
up "executing" the deputy who stopped him.
The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range.
Another deputy wa s wounded and a police dog killed.
A statewide manhunt ensued. The low-life was found hiding in a wooded area with his gun.
SWAT team officers fired and hit the guy 68 times.
The media asked why they shot him 68 times.
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd, told the Orlando Sentinel - "That's all the bullets we had."
As reported earlier, some dirtbag who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop in Florida ended
up "executing" the deputy who stopped him.
The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range.
Another deputy wa s wounded and a police dog killed.
A statewide manhunt ensued. The low-life was found hiding in a wooded area with his gun.
SWAT team officers fired and hit the guy 68 times.
The media asked why they shot him 68 times.
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd, told the Orlando Sentinel - "That's all the bullets we had."
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what is really sad is that the officer's kids, among many other activites,
will never get to go to Disney World with daddy cuz daddy was doing
his job to take care of us and them !
Welcome to the world of the criminal insanes !
ORIGINAL: 76eldoragtop
I guess while that guy was in Orlando he never made it to Disney World? Welcome to the Wild Wild South.
I guess while that guy was in Orlando he never made it to Disney World? Welcome to the Wild Wild South.
Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City, N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician's home county said.
The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen and Brunswick counties.. Mr. Blackburn’s lawyer said, “we feel very strongly that we have a good lawsuit.” “When you announce to the world that you are against guns and then it turns out you do have a gun…you should be held liable for luring the victim to his possible doom.”
The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.
"I am not in a position to talk to you," Soles said by telephone. "I'm right in the middle of an investigation."
The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/ne...me/287987/P10/
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The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen and Brunswick counties.. Mr. Blackburn’s lawyer said, “we feel very strongly that we have a good lawsuit.” “When you announce to the world that you are against guns and then it turns out you do have a gun…you should be held liable for luring the victim to his possible doom.”
The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.
"I am not in a position to talk to you," Soles said by telephone. "I'm right in the middle of an investigation."
The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/ne...me/287987/P10/
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