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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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1995 Eldorado ETC.- 146,000 miles. About6months ago while running along at 60 mph or so the enginequit.While coasting in neutral and tryingto restartseveral times it fired right back up and ran normally. Never hada problem again until yesterday. Car ran fine to the store butwouldn't start for the trip home. It sounded like it was firing but only on a couple cylenders and then it would die. I heard it pop like a backfire from the engine compartment once or twice while it was trying to run. The accelerator pedal was vibrating against my foot as it was trying to start and any attempt to touch it made no difference.After about 10 trys or so, letting it sit for about30 secondsbetween each try it started right up and ran normally.When I got home I started it in the drive several times and it started normallyeach time. Today it quit runningagain twice, accelerator vibrating,but while travelingabout 50mphthe first time and 35 the second time.Both times after several tries it fired right back up. Any ideas ? Thank you - Jim
 
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Afraid to drive it anywhere because it might cut out without warning I took it to the dealer to have a look. They rana completediagnostics on it and couldn't find anything on the fault codes. They had it for a week and said they drove it extensively, nothing. I told them the next time it happened, hopefully where I can get safely to the side of the road with it, I won't try to restart it and just call a tow truck. Great vehicles when they're right but I expecteda lot more from the diagnostics check. - Jim H.
 
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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fuel issue?
fuel filter, water in gas, fuel reg, injectors?

 
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I thought about a fuel problem too but I was told thatthe diagnostics computer should have picked that up showing afuel pressure problem if it was the pump or filter or in the case of water in the gas, abad fuel mixture (rich or lean). Might be worth putting somegas treatmentin it I suppose. - Jim H.
 
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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I wonder why the tech said that. Your issue is sporadic and non-predicatble so
I dont think the diag computer would see it unless it happens when you are looking at it.
I may be wrong, but it still sounds like a fuel or fuel system issue to me.

Could the fuel pump be stalling or having momentary lapses or the fuel filter clogs for an instant?
IF it did, the car simply thinks you run out of fuel. Does running out of fuel trow a code in your car?

Also, there are two natioanl problems that few think about.
- IF you buy corn additive fuel, it starts to gel in about 15 days and starts to clog things up.
- IF you buy gas right after or during the time when the tanker fills the ground tanks,
you could get sediment or moisture pumped into your car tank. The filling stirs up
whatever is in those ground tanks.




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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:49 AM
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I'm not sure if lack of fuel would throw a code but I would assume if the diagnostic computer would show a lean or rich condition it should showthat. Then again the problem is sporadic but I understand the computer holds fault codes in it's memory for a period of time. Why a fuel filter would become totally clogged and then clear itselfagain is beyond me though. At this point I suppose one guessis as good as another. Thanks for your ideas on it, - Jim H.
 
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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My car doesnt trwo codes for out-of-fuel.

In regards to your comment of the fuel filter, it is not unheard of having syrup or gel in the tank. This is stuff that can block and later let go. Sort of like a blood clot. Not that it is that common, but still a posibility.
I have also dealt with a series of malfunctioning fuel pumps that would halt and then restart. I could actually hear the pump running and then slowly stop. Bearings or bushing problem I think. At any case, I had to drop the fuel tank twice. PITA.




 
Old Jun 22, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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...........the gel, think it's called napalm *chuckle*. I've been usingthe carsince I've had the trouble and it hasn't done it again. I'm going to try a fuel filter and see what happens. You mention dropping the tank, I take it the fuel pump is in the tank? I wouldn't fool with something like that. I love getting in deep with motorcycles but cars, nope. Thanks again for your input. - Jim H
 
Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Well the week before last, heading to work, 65 miles per hour - flame out again. Coasted to the side of the road and called a roll back this time without trying a restart. The local Cadillac dealer called me later that day to tell me it was an intermittent short causing the fuel pump to stop and the fuel filter would need replacing too. $940.00 laterI picked it upthe next day and drove it to dinner that evening. Backing out of a parking space after dinner it felt like it dropped a cylender but when I put it in drive it picked right up again. Driving it home you could feel the miss getting more frequent. I ran it in second gear at about 4000rpm for a mile or two to see if it might clear but returning tonormal driving it seemed to be getting worse. I looked at the bill later that evening and in the notes section it read "slight miss, needs plugs and wires replaced". Ihad the platinum tipped plugs and wires replaced approximately 40,000 miles ago at 100,000 miles so the next morning I went out, popped the hood, pulled the engine coverand started lookingfor an errantvacuum hoseor a loose plug wire.It was almost too easy, the plug wireon the rear bankon the drivers side wasn't down tight and after pushing it onthe car is back to it's flawless running self. Wonder if Ican bill them now?- Jim H.
 
Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Eldo, nice find, and there oughta be a law!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send them a bill.
 



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