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jenne 09-23-2008 09:50 AM

grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
Hi,
I have a 1990 sedan deville with 211,000 miles on it. I just had new front brakes/brakelines/rotors and a new serpentine belt put on about 2 months ago.

In the last few weeks, I've noticed a grinding noise when I slow down at intersections, or when I'm driving slow through neighborhoods. Also, sometimes when I come to a complete stop, there is grinding, and then a CLUNK when I come to a complete stop.
I also notice the noise when I slow down to make turns.

Any idea what this might be?

Thanks!

jasper60103 09-23-2008 11:18 AM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
I had a brake noise issue once on my minivan and it turned
out to be inferior pads. Your problem sounds
more serious though.

Did a mechanic do the brake job for you?
I would have him/her check it out.






jenne 09-23-2008 11:21 AM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
A mechanic did do the work. I have an appt for him to look at it Thursday. I'm worried that if it IS the brakes, since it's been almost 2 months since the work was done, that they will not cover it :(

jasper60103 09-23-2008 02:18 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
Take a look at your receipt.
I think most mechanics have at least a 90 day repair warranty
on parts and labor. The inspection should be free as well.

Stealth 09-23-2008 06:36 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
suspects:

wheel bearings 1st, specially if the rotor was not installed properly and bearings not packed.

brakes 2nd .. with new rotors, doubt it .. if this is it, stand firm for warranty replacement, unless you ride it on the track at 150 mpg.


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jenne 09-25-2008 12:13 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
I just got a call from the mechanic. Turns out both of my back drum brakes need replacing...along with the shoes and cylinders...I guess they are all pretty bad and worn. He said it will cost around $270.
Does this seem like a fair price?

Thanks!

carnut 09-25-2008 01:33 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
I find it odd that 2 months later you are told rear brakes needed? When brakes are done by a reputable shop ALL brakes are looked at and percentages given. In other words, front brakes 5% remain rears 10% remain, as an example. Then the consumer can make an intelligent decision. I'm sure the rear brakes were very thin 2 months ago. Have him save all parts which is your right. thin shoes are easily confirmed when compared to new. Wheel cylinders are insurance because of the hi mileage on the car. Price seems fair, at least in relation to here where labor is 100.00 an hour.

jasper60103 09-25-2008 03:12 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
jenne,

Just curious. How long have you owned this car? Do you know the service history?

Katzmans Caddy 09-26-2008 12:59 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
I agree with carnut they should have looked 2 months ago BUT lets not be too hard on the shop here. I mean maybe he did just what was needed or asked atthe time trying to save the customer a few bucks. Rear drums don't do much braking anyway, its not like there was a risk of accident. Once the problem presented itself it is being taken care of. The price is fair imo.

jenne 09-26-2008 02:33 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
Jasper,
I have owned the car for 11 years. Most of the service records are in a file, but to my knowledge, this is the first time [that I can remember :) ] the brakes being worked on. I could be wrong. I've put 70,000 miles on it in those 11 years. The car's been pretty good to me, averaging 24mpg...I commute 80+ miles every day for work, so I'm glad it's still running :)

My brakes are awesome now. much tighter than they've ever been. I test drove a 1996 deville last night and the brakes felt very soft on that car to me [even though their service records show they just had front + back brakes all redone in june of this year]. Also, it seemed the '96 had less get-up-and-go than my '90. It has perfect exterior/interior with 83k miles and they're asking $4950...which is a little above bluebook. It's just hard to think of driving another car after I've had mine so long :)

Katzmans Caddy 09-26-2008 03:10 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 

ORIGINAL: jenne

I test drove a 1996 deville last night and the brakes felt very soft on that car to me [even though their service records show they just had front + back brakes all redone in june of this year]. Also, it seemed the '96 had less get-up-and-go than my '90. It has perfect exterior/interior with 83k miles and they're asking $4950...which is a little above bluebook. It's just hard to think of driving another car after I've had mine so long :)

Was the Northstar an option on Deville in 96? If that car had a Northstar it should be a rocket. Sounds like one to avoid. Northstar equipped Devilles have better acceleartion times than a lot of muscle cars from the 60's.

carnut 09-26-2008 04:39 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
Having combination disc, drum brakes will always give you a better pedal feel over 4 wheel disc. I'll bet the 96 was 4 wheel disc.

Tarrance 09-26-2008 09:14 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
I don't know about that 96, but mine has plenty of get up and go! And my brakes are excellent, did the job myself. The major difference for you will be the Northstar. When you have a good one, you have a good one. But if you have a problem, well you know what I mean. Im shocked at the 96 only having 83K miles on it. Definitely the reason for being over blue book. Even at 12K per year as an allowance its about 61K less than expected. Definitely worth another look see. The 94-96 is nice, even though I am more partial to the subtle yet noticeable changes for the 97-99 year models. Also, badly worn pads, even if they dont squeal or grind will give a cushy break feel. Let us know what you decide.

Tarrance 09-26-2008 09:18 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 
I think the Northstar was an option on the 95 model but became standard in 96. Could be wrong?

Stealth 09-27-2008 04:53 PM

RE: grinding noise when driving slow or stopping
 

ORIGINAL: jenne

Hi,
I have a 1990 sedan deville with 211,000 miles on it. I just had new front brakes/brakelines/rotors and a new serpentine belt put on about 2 months ago.

In the last few weeks, I've noticed a grinding noise when I slow down at intersections, or when I'm driving slow through neighborhoods. Also, sometimes when I come to a complete stop, there is grinding, and then a CLUNK when I come to a complete stop.
I also notice the noise when I slow down to make turns.

Any idea what this might be?

Thanks!


ILLOGICAL !
IF they grind while driving, this makes little sense.

MY Advice, dont have any more work there.
The guy should have inspected and adviced on all the work needed.
There is nothing, NOTHING, more important on your car than the brakes.

so .. either ...

1. fraud is in the making,
2. incompetence is prevalent,

either case, I would go elsewhere ...

AND DO NOT TELL the next guy what the 1st guy recommended, what he did, nothing.

Simply take it in, tell them what the symptoms are and see what they say.


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