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Was at a big classic Cadillac show on Sunday at one of the largerst dealers in Toronto, City Buick Cadillac,We spied this immaculate 93 Fleetwood they took in trade, one owner car originally sold at that dealer. My son who is 19 fell in love with it. I called Monday morning and they brought the car down to my office and we went for a test drive. I offered them $1,700 and it's ours being dropped off today. Talk about impulse spending! I don't know what i'm doing with it yet, I 've got 5 cars now.

Havea look a few shots from Sunday when we saw it.

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When I was 19, I LOVED cars with big back seats, they save me a lot of $'s.
What are you going to do with it? Tint the rear windows and give it to the 19 year old, of course.

$1,700 for that sounds like a super buy.




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Well as my son said said the scrap value of the hood is $1,700! Four brand new tires, it has a brand new battery and lots of new hoses and metal lines under the hood. I drove it on the Highway up to 120km (75 mph) and it was rock steady, not even a quiver in the wheel, stopped straight and true, I don't think the back seat has been used YET! I was going to give it to my son but I like it better than my Deville.

They had the car for 4 days as it came in on trade and was going to the public auction. I figure the made $1000.

Thanks for fixing the pics, I still have uploading issues.

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congrats, im 19 and have a blue '94. Belive me if your son gets that hes ganna be the new pimp on the block. Where ever i go i get complements. turely my favorite car.

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Well it is a 185 HP 300 ft lb 350 TBI, not the LT 1 but this thing lays rubber like a drunken sailor. Torque is torque and I think the LT 1 and TBI have the same. Anyway Jr. will be getting it unless I keep it but if I do he gets a N* Deville. I'll tell him that '1989 fleetwood' is 19 too, maybe he'll join the forum.

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nice find katz.... very elegant

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Thanks Rick, had the car for two days at my office, told my wife at dinner tonight, I'll never figure out women, she wants my Deville now! ;)

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you are lucky that is ALL she wants.

wait till she starts lurking in the site.


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Boys, I have to tell you that piloting this Fleetwood around is shear joy, it has my Deville covered in ride and noise level and although it has the L05 5.7 TBI and everyone raves about the LT1 5.7 I can't imagine needing any more power. Of course the two engines produce similar torque so that's what moves a big Caddy. It's also got this crazy 2.56 axle ratio and despite that moves out smartly around town and a real long distance cruiser on the highway.

The previous owner was Ken Schrotter, a elderly man who must have knee jerked on gas prices. This car has been well taken care of and on top of that it had only one recorded warranty job, a child seat restriant bolt installation, had to bea recall. It just had a new battery installed in November 2007 and he left the warranty for that for me as well. I may just create a new user name 'Schrotter's Fleetwood'.

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Very nice, conratulations! Definitely the last of the big Cadillacs. How many miles? Does it have all the original paperwork like the Window sticker? I'm always into the little items like that with these one owner Caddys.

Steve

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It's got 156,000 so he drove it but probably early in it's life it was wintering in FLA. I bought it from a dealer but I suppose I could call the gentleman and see if he has those items. He lives about 40 miles outside of Toronto. He did leave me a warranty on a recently purchased battery and 4 recent Michelins too are on the car.

I just got back from a swap meet with a buddy and as we entred the 401 (18 lane expressway) he asked me If I had it floored because the speedo was showing 141. I said hell no I haven't even got it half way yet! :D

I bought itto replace our third car, a 1994 Buick Regal,for the family but so far I'm the only one driving it. It's not that they don't want to, it's just that I have it all the time.

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Forgot to mention that I do have the build data. I asked the sales manager to print it off. It is two pages of RPO codes. Build date was November 9, 1992 Arlington Texas and in service date was May 13, 1993 Toronto, Ontario. It had one warranty job which was a dual tether bolt install for the child seat, must have been a recall.

I found the Traction Control Off switch. This car has been laying patches with the traction Control ON. It was embarassing leaving the light at full throttle with the Traction Control off. The smoke was pouring off those Michelins, even my 19 year old riding shotgun was looking for a place to hide.This car is incredible!

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New to the Forum. Beautiful car.

I just bought the same year, model, and color car from an owner in RI who got it from his grandfather in North Carolina. 81,000 miles. I paid $2,800.00 for it. Look it up on www.carsurvey.com under Cadillac Fleetwood 1993. I love this car!

My water pump was still working but the bearings were getting pretty worn so I replaced it. GM parts are inexpensive for this car. One can find all of the mechanical parts new but I found that just about every body part is no longer being made by GM or the after market part manufactures.

If you are thinking of keeping this car for a long time, buy the factory "Fleetwood rear wheel Driver Service Manual 1993" on eBay. It is inexpensive and it covers everything you need to know. I am using it as a guide to remove my cracked dash.

I did find a lot of rust on the back of the bumpers. Used POR15 on this. So many of these Northern Fleetwoods have rusted through chrome bumpers. Easy fix to avoid a very expensive chrome job down the road.

Is your dash in good shape? Mine has cracks everywhere. I ordered a used , like new, one from a Cadillac wrecking yard in California.

Next is a trip to a local auto upholstery shop to replace my worn and cracked leather on the front seats. I will have them replace the leather with the same vinyl that is on the rest of the seat. They quoted me $800.00 to have this done.

Happy Motoring!

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As luck would have it I have a nieghbour who is a Cadillac collector and retired GM mechanic. He gave me the service manual two days after seeing the car at our place. He belongs to the Professional Car Society so his own baby is a 1975 FleetwoodAmbulance, his daily is a 2004 DTS.

My interior is pretty much mint with a bit of wear on one panel of the drivers seat. Dash pad is very good. I could use a rear bumper cover as there is a bit of surface rust that continues to reappear after cleanings.

You are right on parts though, a lot of GMC truck parts on the chassis and the bullet proof small block Chevy. A lot of guys will say that the LT1 engine from 1994-96 is better BUT it is not and I repeat it is not an original Cheverolet small block. True it has more HP but both the L05 and LT1 have identical torque. This was the last passenger car made by GM to use the famous small block and after 1993 it did continue in the trucks until 2000 in some applications as the Vortec 5.7 L31 code.

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aaaa i think id give it to her............. lol............... THE CAR, KATZ!

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I tried to give it to her but she is loyal to her Suburban.......I guess it has something to do with size.

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Another plus having the 1993, 350 is it has the traditional seperate water pump and distributor assemblies, inexpensive and easy to replace, no Opti-Spark.

That said, I haven't tried to replace the spark plugs yet. Do you know if the fender well skirts have to come off to get at them or can I jack the car up and work from underneath the car using a universal on my socket wrench?

Any idea what Cadillac called this gold color in 1993? Gold or tan? Do you know where one can source a color chart for the interior and exterior colors.

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T M I ....... Lmao ..... thats funny

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I thought you'd like that!

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You can fit a Kindegarten class under that hood, no problem getting the plugs out at all, it's as simple as working on a 1970 Impala.

My build sheet lists that colour as "Driftwood". I've been watching fro a sales brochure on eBay but no luck yet.

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I have some torn upholstery on the front seats of my 93 Fleetwood. Instead of a $800.00+
reupholstery job I was thinking of putting in some nice 01 Deville seats up front.

Has anyone replaced the seats in the 93-96 Fleetwood with 2001 Deville front seats or any other make or model seats for that matter? I can modify the wiring underneath but I was wondering, if by some miracle the bolt pattern is the same for the front seat tracks? Even this I can modify if the width of the 01 Deville seats is the same as the 93 Fleetwood.