RE: Oil + coolant leak?
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RE: Oil + coolant leak? - 3/29/2008 11:53:55 AM
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boya84
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Well.... here we are. Five months later. Routine maintenance has been continuing (tire rotation, oil changes, all the normal stuff). The 2003 CTS has hit 60,000 miles - and at the moment, all is fine and I am about to turn this car over to my son. The 2008 CTSs seem to be doing well. I told my wife to go find a car for me over the next week or so. I'll let you know what she comes home with.
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RE: Oil + coolant leak? - 4/11/2008 8:46:06 PM
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boya84
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I am the proud owner of a 2008 Cadillac CTS. My son now has the 2003. These are REALLY different cars.
This chapter is now closed.
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RE: Oil + coolant leak? - 4/11/2008 10:00:28 PM
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Stealth
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This was quite a chapter.
I am almost surprised that you got another CTS after going through that.
I dId re-read the thread fast so I missed where you got the new one.
What was the total for the repairs?
Did GM step up beyond the $2,000 coupon?
thanks
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RE: Oil + coolant leak? - 4/12/2008 6:29:42 AM
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boya84
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Post 5 has the detail on the cost
Taxes, and everything else: $5,153.35.
Post 6 has the $2,900 coupon.
Stealth, as the moderator, you probably know better than most how different the cars are (inside and out). That was part of it. Another contributor is my personal requirement to get a vehicle that is as red/white/blue as I can. My choices are GM and... um... Lincoln (Ford).
I can't fault GM for the dealer's issues in the Service Manager. I can't fault the Dealer for GM's problem. In the end, after continued research, it seems my 2003 CTS was one of a very few (dare I say only - the techs on this board can only confirm that) that had the issue. I don't think that ultimately translates into a bad product. OK, maybe for me it was - but for all others who did not have this issue... maybe I am trying to rationalize because when I boil it all down, I don't really have a choice because of my first requirement. And maybe that is OK. After a 1975 Camaro with nearly 200k miles; a 1984 El Camino with nearly 300K miles; a 1994 Camaro with nearly 50K miles and the CTS with about 50K miles and NOT having a problem, one issue is not so bad.
But if this new CTS has any problems, you can bet I'll be all over the dealer and GM like stink on s---.
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RE: Oil + coolant leak? 2003 Cadillac CTS, working th... - 4/12/2008 7:47:14 AM
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Stealth
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quote:
ORIGINAL: boya84
Post 5 has the detail on the cost
Taxes, and everything else: $5,153.35.
Post 6 has the $2,900 coupon.
Stealth, as the moderator, you probably know better than most how different the cars are (inside and out). That was part of it. Another contributor is my personal requirement to get a vehicle that is as red/white/blue as I can. My choices are GM and... um... Lincoln (Ford).
I can't fault GM for the dealer's issues in the Service Manager. I can't fault the Dealer for GM's problem. In the end, after continued research, it seems my 2003 CTS was one of a very few (dare I say only - the techs on this board can only confirm that) that had the issue. I don't think that ultimately translates into a bad product. OK, maybe for me it was - but for all others who did not have this issue... maybe I am trying to rationalize because when I boil it all down, I don't really have a choice because of my first requirement. And maybe that is OK. After a 1975 Camaro with nearly 200k miles; a 1984 El Camino with nearly 300K miles; a 1994 Camaro with nearly 50K miles and the CTS with about 50K miles and NOT having a problem, one issue is not so bad.
But if this new CTS has any problems, you can bet I'll be all over the dealer and GM like stink on s---.
I thank you for the clarification.
Being a MOD I actually read almost everything in three Cadillac sites. We are members of the MOD team in two of those. Its not hard to misread something as we browse at 1,800 words / min.
Your documented pains with this issue were well written, well detailed, with status all the way from start to finish. This thread, is very informative not only on the technical problem but how to deal with the bureaucracy of the dealerships as well as GM, the corporation.
As you have,two choices of cars, so do I. To this day, I consider the MK VII the very best family cars I have ever owned - I have owned two. The family stables have either all GM or Ford products. We banned Chrysler in the early '80s - but that may change. It seems that Chrysler is doing a turn around as GM & Ford have been.
Your final decision to get a second CTS is admirable. It was done with logical thinking, not emotion and unless you get hit with the statistical lemon, I do agree that was a damn good decision.
There are TWO cars on my radar for the future: the 2008 STS-V and the 2008 CTS-V. I happen to love the 2008 models, but as the newer models of '09 come out .. my thinking may shift to the ever newer models. I am a bit disappointed that there is no Cadillac CTS-V AWD - Cadillac needs to put a V series AWD car in the market, but of course, maybe they havent got the bugs out and it shouldnt be released until they do, if ever.
I have said it before, I will say it again. When people talk about this era, the 2008 CTS-V will be the car to have had owned. The Charger may also be on that list, will wait and see, in another about 20 years.
I have taken the liberty of adding a opening note to the 1st posting of this thread - a very rare action on our part.
I believe this thread can be most helpful to others that run into such headaches.
again, thank you for an excellent thread.
< Message edited by Stealth -- 4/12/2008 8:11:50 AM >
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