Go Back   Cadillac Forum - Enthusiast forums for Cadillac Owners > Cadillac Models > Cadillac Deville
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-10-2011, 02:31 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 23
Default 02 deville door locks not working

I just purchased the car. 85k on the ticker. Dome lights, trunk, fuel door, door locks dont work. pulled all fuses. Nothing looks blown. I am looking for a bad ground, but find it hard to believe these arent all associated somehow. Windows and mirrors work fine. Dont believe its the control module. Any ideas? Thanks (update: I am throwing cam and crank sensor codes. plus the service antitheft is on the digital readout. Could these all be related?)

Last edited by thegoat86; 03-10-2011 at 08:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-10-2011, 11:28 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 239
Default

u could be having a problem with ddm driver door module
or the rim rear module

we need to know does it lock but does not unlock

dom lights do they work from switch

does the trunk open with remote

can u pull the codes and let us know
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-11-2011, 09:31 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 23
Default

Thanks for responding. Nothing new. I read the codes. Just the crank and cam sensor codes. New antitheft service words on gauge cluster. I reset the codes they popped up again. No check engine lights. Car is running nice and smooth. The car came with a broken door lock keychain. So I can't tell if that works. No operation of door locks, trunk release, fuel release other than manually. The dome lights don't work at all even manually. I was looking all over the internet for the ground locations so I can verify they are connected. The only thing I can see that might be suspect is a dvd player was removed from the ceiling previous to my purchasing it. I will be removing headliner to have it redone so I will inspect things then. I had a mint 91 deville before this one.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-11-2011, 04:19 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 239
Default

the car will tell u the codes
can u post them
u will have some codes like
p0603
b1365
ddm codes
just post what comes out of th vehicle
does the vehicle lock and unlock when in gear and back in park
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-11-2011, 04:59 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 23
Default

"""To enter diagnostic mode, proceed as follows:
  1. Turn ignition "ON." Engine can be either OFF or RUNNING.
  2. Depress the "ON/OFF" button and the "UP ARROW" end of the info button on the driver information center simultaneously for a few seconds.
All the dashboard lights will illuminate, including the segments of the DIC display. You are then presented with text. You can cycle through different questions using the UP and DOWN arrows on the info button. If you select "ALL CODES" this will give you all the codes. For example (PCM P0115 HISTORY) THen lets say this is also a current problem is will state this after showing the history code (PCM P0115 CURRENT). These are the abreviations that you should see when scrolling through the choices. You can select each one and check for codes as well.
  • ABS -- Antilock Brake System
  • AMP -- Amplifier
  • DDM -- Drivers Door Module
  • DDS -- Drivers Door Switch
  • DIM -- Dash Integration Module
  • IPC -- Instrument Panel Cluster
  • IPM -- Instrument Panel Integration Module
  • IRC -- Integrated Radio Chassis
  • LRD -- Left Rear Door Module
  • MSM -- Memory Seat Module
  • PCM -- Powertrain Control Module
  • PDM -- Passenger Door Module
  • RCC -- Rear Climate Control
  • RFA -- Remote Function Actuation
  • RIM -- Rear Integration Module
  • RRD -- Right Rear Door Module
  • RSS -- Road Sensing Suspension
  • SDM -- Inflatable Restraint Sensing and Diagnostic Module
  • TTM -- Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel Module
  • VTD -- Vehicle Theft Deterent
try this and see what you come up with.
__________________
Daddylac
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3193930

Current Cady- 98' Seville SLS
Other Cady's- 92 Deville (R.I.P.),89 Brougham (Brother owns) """
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________



Ok, I did this. Got alot of codes. They are as follows.
1. DDM B3832 current
2. DDM V1000 current
3. IPC V1000 current
4. IPM B0429 current
5. IPM V1000 current
6. PCM V1066 current
7. PDM B3832 current
8. PDM V1000 current

That is all. But thats enough! I am at a loss. I am going now to buy a manuel for the vehicle. As I stated before I still have all the original problems. Just changed the battery and also after I checked the codes initially, I cleared them. Then rechecked codes after running car a few mins. All same codes nothing different. I am going to borrow a scan tool, but intitial scantool reading only picked up crank and cam sensor codes. None of these. Also located and disconnected RIM module, ran car with no change in anything. Then reconnected RIM, touched disconnected battery cables together, and still no change. (GMTECHS = no power lock action at all. I do remember my 91' locked and unlocked when in and out of gear. Thanks for the remind. But no nothing.)

Last edited by thegoat86; 03-11-2011 at 06:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-11-2011, 05:42 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 23
Default

Also, It would be awesome to have a sticky where codes are listed as they pertain to each model for easy lookup. I wouldnt be able to accomplish that, but someone else might. Just a thought.
__________________
Mama's 2002 deville. My 1992 deville (RIP 12/10)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-11-2011, 06:13 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 23
Default

Ok, did the reset window thing. Up and hold - down and hold, all windows. Now they go up and down normally. They go down with just a click but up I have to hold button. Anyways, while I was doing that I would hear a high pitched squeal barely audible from the dash. I shut the door and listened. It stopped after 20 seconds. Is this the dome light solenoid activating and timing out? If so, that works. But still no lights. Cannot find source for code lookup. Only "p-zero" codes. Book is no help. Where can I find a source for these codes please? The things happening are not detrimental but are annoying with the loss of creature comforts. Can still lock manually.
__________________
Mama's 2002 deville. My 1992 deville (RIP 12/10)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-12-2011, 12:14 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 239
Default

b3832 Window Position Sensor Circuit
b1000 ECU Malfunction
i believe that is u1000 Class 2 Communication Malfunction
b0429 Temperature Control #3 Rear Circuit Range/Performance
u1066 Lost Communications With XXX (module it will say)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-12-2011, 09:29 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 23
Default

Ok, this is greek to me. Thanks for the info. Now what do I do with it haha. Is there somehow I can tell which module is not working to cause this? It wasnt really clear. Just gave me codes. The ceiling mounted DVD player was connected throught the battery and not into the stereo. So I assume there was nothing messed with.
__________________
Mama's 2002 deville. My 1992 deville (RIP 12/10)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-12-2011, 11:19 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 239
Default

ok the problem start like this
do u you have a general knowledge about cars if so you can fix it
if not i would recommend you take it to someone who can

basically u need to track down each code and fix the problem
now the trick is some of the problems can be caused by a bad wire or common module
so since u fixed the window i would clear the codes again
and see what codes come back
do u have a multimeter or test light u will need either one better to have a meter.
lets start with door locks
door locks are controlled throught the driver door module (ddm)
but we also have to make sure u have power to that circuit and relay works

this depends on the option u have for locks 2 different styles

this is the driver door switch wires


Connector Part Information
  • 12124997
  • 5-Way F 150 Series Metri- Pack (BLK)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A
YEL
1491
Backlight Lamps Control
B
--
--
Not Used
C
BLK/WHT
351
Ground
D
RED/BLK
780
Driver Door Lock Switch Lock Signal
E
ORN/BLK
781
Driver Door Lock Switch Unlock Signal



this is the relay control


Connector Part Information
  • 12059561
  • 6-Way F Metri-Pack 280 Series (BLK)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A
GRY
295
Door Lock Actuator Lock Control
B
GRY
295
Door Lock Actuator Lock Control
C
BLK
450
Ground
D
ORN
1040
Battery Positive Voltage
E
TAN
294
Door Lock Actuator Unlock Control
F
TAN
294
Door Lock Actuator Unlock Control

you may have this lock style
Connector Part Information
  • 12047531
  • 10-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (BLK)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
1
--
--
Not Used
2
PPL
616
Memory 2 Switch Signal
3
WHT
615
Memory 1 Switch Signal
4
ORN
614
Memory Set Switch Signal
5
YEL
1491
Backlight Lamps Control
6
ORN/BLK
781
Driver Door Lock Switch Unlock Signal
7
RED/BLK
780
Driver Door Lock Switch Lock Signal
8
BLK/WHT
351
Ground
9
ORN
640
Battery Positive Voltage
10
PPL
1807
Class 2 Serial Data



let me know if u understand up to here.

Last edited by gmtechs; 03-12-2011 at 11:24 AM.
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2011, 11:19 AM
 
 
 
Reply



Tags
02, 92, cadillac, control, deville, does, door, ground, location, locks, module, power, radio, remote, rim, stopped, working


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Advertising

Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory
Our Sponsors
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32 PM.

Internet Brands, Inc.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.