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foxpaws
9/10/2007 9:25:15 AM
I knew somewhere there was a muscle car in my Allante. That many horses and that big Northstar just had to put out a little more growl than what it was doing stock.

So, I hooked up with Lance at Boulder Euro Sport Tuning (in Boulder - a great guy - 303-875-8747, $120 an hour, 600 a day, 12k a month, but perhaps not really into caddys - I think I am a project for him... He really does race cars and performance tuning - not really service stuff) and wow - this car sounds great...


I really don't know much about the exhaust - details that is - but I do have a lot of photos...

So, here goes...

The old exhaust... blick...



A close-up of something - I think it has something to do with junk in the catalytic converter...



What it takes... I think the 5-pack (there appears to be one missing already) is an essential installation tool!!!!

Stainless - Edelbrock muffler - Dynatech cat and resonator (I think)



Old and new - side by side...



Some close-ups on the install...




What it looks like bolted up... under the car



From the back...



Wow - you would think it was a whole new car (actually the bi-turbo is more what Lance usually works on - The Allante was its stable mate for a couple of days...)



Hopefully I can figure out how to post a sound clip - it lights up...

I love the new sound and look – I might be changing out the tip for something chrome – still looking though…


Katzmans Caddy
9/10/2007 11:20:25 AM
Great photos of the installation and parts! From what I can see you have larger diameter stainless pipes that have been mandral bent with a more direct flow through the Edelbrock muffler added to a high flow cat. This is a nicely done system. It is sure to have released a good number of horses. As for finding a chrome tip why not polish the stainless tip already installed.
G.A.R.Y.
9/10/2007 12:00:54 PM
Fox
 
We do have a sites and sounds section.  Try pm Stealth or Patrick for instructions.  Great photos, just need cold air and k&n filter, maybe a chip and then  disable traction control. You can do this for 11 ignition cycles and then it reverts back to abled.
foxpaws
9/10/2007 12:22:20 PM
Gary -

Got the filter - and Lance just took off the air intake snorkel and then left the port through the fender wall - added some grid to keep me from sucking up small animals

I couldn't find a cold air intake for this... do you have any suggestions?

Why disable traction control? - And how do you do it?

Oh, the grill looks better without the snorkel - it just looked silly...



And this is the snorkel piece that was removed...

G.A.R.Y.
9/10/2007 3:50:19 PM
You can disable the traction control on the DIC  I have the print-out in my glove box which is in PA.  Try the owners manual, I believe it's there.  Why?  Because you can, although it will NOT prolong the life of the tires.
 
As for cold air, I haven't done to mine but try this
 
aircoldintake.com | Filter Intake | Cold Filter | Cold Intake | Air Filter
Stealth
9/10/2007 5:44:31 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: foxpaws

Gary -



Why disable traction control? - And how do you do it?

Oh, the grill looks better without the snorkel - it just looked silly...



Fox,

the traction control adjusts power to prevent wheel spins.  

you got a grill shoot before the snorkel was yanked?

as to the GRILL ... L@@K at my profile .. something removed from MY GRILL ...
i didnt think that a pimple on a pretty face was pretty.
you may want to try that and decide if you like the looks .. .


edit:
wasnt thinking straight when it was 1st written ...





G.A.R.Y.
9/10/2007 7:50:40 PM
Katzmans Caddy
9/10/2007 8:42:11 PM
Fox, the photos of the car on the hoist has different tires from the shots on the ground, you hiding something from us? Why not show us a nice pic of the new meats too? That is fine looking rubber and imo you should leave the traction control engaged. No sense tearing up those beauties.
Stealth
9/10/2007 8:48:47 PM
 
Fox,

i just remember something about someone making "one by one" mufflers to match the OEM
units cuz they cant be found.  Iam going by memory and incorrect but that is what i remember.
someone may come along and want to duplicate your innovations. 

nice postings.   ATTA GIRL !

i'm sure if i am wrong, someone will chime in form somewhere and put me straight.
about the only thing i can say, is that the original exhaust was painted ... BLACK.

you should be able to find black paint on the old ...



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foxpaws
9/11/2007 7:34:46 AM
I don't have a front-on picture of the snorkel - but here is what it looked like from the top. I am sure someone with a '93 could provide a front-on shot...



Stealth - you can see a bit of the old black paint on the muffler in the first picture. I only wanted to match the "footprint" of the old exhaust - this is far, far removed from original - it is closer to a racing exhaust -

Good catch Katzman - new shoes!!!! You can see the new Toyo tires in the "butt" shot - got them for a song (thanks to industry discount, and they run Toyos on one of our sponsored race cars).



Wider than normal - 245s (spec on the Allante is 225/60/16) - so lower aspect ratio at 50 - great look - lots of rubber on the pavement - no rubbing whatsoever.

I would image that these will wear pretty fast though - soft rubber - speed rated w. I kept the Michelins - just in case. But, I was finally able to get the ugly wheel weights off the face of the wheels and they balanced them with weight tape on the inside - so they balanced them side to side as well...

I'll get a beauty shot of them tonight - it is venturing out of the garage - I figured out how to get sound up on this site - so I need to record it tonight - in a park, away from the neighbors...

And, Stealth - I sort of like the caddy emblem on the front - this is a caddy - no matter what I do to it - those over the top chrome wheels are staying on - the logos are staying on (although I won't be adding any... no need to get silly here). I think people sort of view it like the "Hot Rod Lincoln" of the 50s/60s - it is unexpected...
foxpaws
9/11/2007 7:35:09 AM
Oh, Gary -

Still can't find a cold air intake...

But, if the traction control is easy to disengage - I might try it once...
foxpaws
9/11/2007 9:40:48 PM
Zoom, zoom - I have sound.....

http://www.mediamax.com/foxpaws/Hosted/car/allante3.mp3

It sort of overwhelmed the tiny microphone in my computer - but you get the idea....

I received many odd looks at the park....
Stealth
9/12/2007 7:30:05 AM
quote:



ORIGINAL: foxpaws

Zoom, zoom - I have sound.....

http://www.mediamax.com/foxpaws/Hosted/car/allante3.mp3

It sort of overwhelmed the tiny microphone in my computer - but you get the idea....

I received many odd looks at the park....



are you sure they were "odd looks" ? 
i can hear the stilettos. 
i can only imagen from there ...





    .     .      .       .      .          CLICK HERE:
'93 Allante GROWL


next is a video clip, traction disabled, IN GEAR, pedal to the metal?




Katzmans Caddy
9/12/2007 7:39:45 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: foxpaws

Zoom, zoom - I have sound.....

http://www.mediamax.com/foxpaws/Hosted/car/allante3.mp3

It sort of overwhelmed the tiny microphone in my computer - but you get the idea....

I received many odd looks at the park....

 
Wow, sure doesn't sound like a Cadillac but it does sound Good. Maybe you can let us know the part number on that Edelbrock muffler.
G.A.R.Y.
9/12/2007 8:04:18 AM
I know that voice from somewhere. 
foxpaws
9/12/2007 9:04:20 AM
Good ears stealth...

Click, click - big girl shoes...

Katzman

I have emailed Lance to get a part number - I know it is a SDT muffler - stainless... two outlet - offset...

They make them in all different sizes... it is for custom applications.

And, nope - it ain't your Daddy's Caddy....

Gary... you know me? I know you? hmmmmmm
Stealth
9/12/2007 9:23:20 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: foxpaws

Good ears stealth...

Click, click - big girl shoes...



Fox,

A guy that is alive, can often hear the fine things in life,
where others hear silence ... !


as to the car parts, i assume it is a "kit" pack ...Edelbrock.





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foxpaws
9/12/2007 9:54:30 AM
Stealth -

Nope, not a kit - it is a hand-made exhaust. The cat is from Dynatech - the resonator I believe is from borla... Pipes - ?????? Muffler Edelbrock.

I don't think they make kits for this car - and I wanted a very specific sound... that is why the hand made one...
sajobob
3/23/2008 9:36:27 AM
Does anyone know what the part numbers might be for the CAT and Muffler? I have someone to make the pipes I just want to make sure I get something that will fit in the stock locations.
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